about this latest revelation is the fact that, according to microsoft, the hacking was going on within the last week, within the last couple of days. it was only last month that the biden administration issued tough sanctions on russia for the solarwinds hacking. expelled ten diplomats. put economic sanctions on russia. it sanctioned individuals and said we hope that behavior, you know, will now change. clearly just a couple of weeks before the summit, it's still going on. >> is it in jeopardy, jim, the summit? >> i don't think the summit is in jeopardy. they're both invested in this. joe biden will want to establish a clear break from the trump administration and trump's helsinki moment by calling putin out, perhaps next to him at a joint press conference. that's part of the intention here of the summit. the other point about this hack, this is not high level, high-tech stuff. russia is using a trick they've used for years which is a spear