doesn't that doesn't really matter what mass is is that we hold on tool at this and in fact the experiment. some of these rights because you know you were portals i said women have equal rights that's not strictly true there are still areas of inequity but but what helen panka said is absolutely true that this is also overwhelmingly cultural i mean just look at things like parenting one of the reasons for the gender pay gap is. assumptions about the roles performed by men and women both privately and in the workplace and the idea that parenting is primarily a woman's job and as a result of that you know sadly see employers paying women less because they assume they may take time off to have children you see employers paying men with children more than they pay men with children it's one of the interesting statistics there catherine my own version of running outside but very interesting talking with you