a lot of wait and see going on right now so in spite of that where do you see this all going. i think the iranians will expect some form of guarantees and the europeans will try hard and i think that after all the incentives for either side to keep this deal intact this is the political will is quite strong and it might end up being safeguarded and the question however is really for the europeans how far they are willing to go to put some challenges to transatlantic relations without abandoning them ok briefly if you could maybe see both when you say both sides want to keep this happening do you mean the e.u. russia and china that we're talking about actually i meant iran and the remaining party switch could be the p four plus one or the e.u. e three plus two plus one depending on how you know sort of that each three plus three plus two depending on how you want to formulate this so these are the two