it's a very efficient process we get we got a lot of very high quality electronics that quite affordable price really but no consideration has been paid into what happens the products at the end of its life so you these products can rarely be fixed or pad or remanufactured which kind of key components to moving towards a more secular model we define the secular column e. as an economy that is restorative and regenerative by design products are being manufactured and optimized for the purchasing decision and when people go and they want to buy things we're comparing features we're not comparing licensing here's a path for manufacturers to create products that are compelling they're useful that push the state of technology forward that also consider that has to time so if we're going to talk about a circular economy in the context of electronics it has to be around repair and reuse and that's in there if we can extend the life of a product we can build a circular economy but we really need to deemphasize recycling because recycling is