angeles school district spent ten years trying to fire seven teachers for poor performance, it was successful in only four of the cases. >> paul: wow, so if a teacher, if the school closes, bill. >> right. >> paul: the teacher is out of work and goes back into the pool of teachers, the principal at another school in a big system like l.a. or new york, has the ability to say, to hire them at the schools, but if the principals don't want them and some of these teachers have reputations for not being terribly competent. they sit there, but still get paid. >> right, look, the public school system we have in the big cities is not a school system, it's a jobs program. it's a lifetime jobs program. jason rightly mentioned the legislatures. center or american progress in every state except wisconsin mandates tenure and only two states, iowa and new mexico link that tenure to any kind of classroom performance. even when these people do get fired after a lot of expensive litigation, it's almost never for just failing in the classroom, it's usually for some egregious violation, sexual