of his sentence. >> julie: how much time, do you think. >> i believe under the three or four indictments, that are pending on him in the united states, the most recent of which was in atlanta, georgia, by the u.s. attorney's office there, i am strongly suspecting that he is looking at a minimum mandatory sentence of 30 years, upwards to life without parole and he's 37 years old, and, if he ever wants to see his family again, spend time with them in a meaningful way in his latter years there may be an opportunity for him to cooperate, but, suffice to it say, he's going to spend a long, long time in jail. now, it is quite apparent, you don't just stumble across guys like this, president calderon and his security forces systematically identified his network, arrested a number of his key lieutenants over the past few months which tells me