they smelled it in the area. in one case a gentleman told me he was at his house, garage was open and doing work, and pg&e tells him to shut his garage and tells everybody to shut their garage because they believed they had a natural gas leak. no indication though there was any connection between that and what happened at 6:00 p.m. on thur night. -- thursday night. i did want to point out we had indication from some of the residents in the area, were down there when this was first going on, and they saw firefighters trying to get water out of the high drants and unable to -- hydrants and unable to do so because there was no water. >> that's a bad situation, no water with a fire like that. >> absolutely. >> they talk about this high pressure gas line, people hearing this massive explosion. and they said they were unable to get close enough to it to shut it off. that's not the case now, they