they are willing to give on the money issues but not on collective bargaining and the president is correct in standing up for that and saying you cannot take away the rights of collective bargaining of' union and that is saying they are not a union and that is the whole point, that they collectively bargain and, people keep making the distinctions between the public union and private union and i fail to see the difference. and if anything, they should more have a right to collectively bargain and the government shouldn't have all the power. martha: government companies don't generally go out of business and private companies do if the bargaining chips are driven up so high the company cannot function and keeps a lid on collective bargaining in the private sector and that is a main difference. >> i think that is a fair point but i think the people who really should be held accountable are the politicians who gives the deals to them. martha: and unfortunately they haven't been. >> yes. but, that is not their fault -- collective bargaining shouldn't, taken from them because politicians made stupid deals. martha: mary katherine what do you think about all of that.
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