and if you want to look at the biggest bias in compromise information -- >> juan: if that's valuable to you caroline, why wouldn't you pay for it? >> die pay for it through my taxes that's how i would like to pay for it in addition to my individual contributions. >> juan: hold on. you are saying it's more important in terms of your tax spending than social security. more important. >> not more. >> juan: scholarships for college children. >> not more. >> juan: more important than the police or the fire? you want to have that as your priority even at a time of fiscal constraints? >> well, juan, our fiscal constraints are the result of tax cuts for the wealthy who wealth has been growing astronomically while will middle 80's. >> juan: increase taxes to pay for npr's budget? that's what you are saying. >> just restore taxes to an equitable place and be fine. get out of wars we can't afford and shouldn't have been n the first place. this either/or doesn't make sense to me when i look at the books and see we are a wealthy country pay for everything we