if you kick the can down the road and keep delaying and procrastinating it is bitter and awful for everybody. everybody gets cut. every year we delay fixing this problem we go 10 trillion in the hole of more unfunded proms that washington is making to people. we have to start talking honestly. we need fact-based . we have to give the country a plan to prevent añór@ big debt crisis. i'm saying do it now. economic growth, prosperity, gradual, phased in. kick the can down the road go trillions deeper into debt and everybody gets hurt. >> greta: have you talked to any of the democrats? is the line drawn in the sand? >> i talk to blue dog democrats in 9 house the conservative democrats. -- in the house. the conservative democrats. we all see these numbers. i talk to blue dog democrats who i think see it our way.