for a shutdown it doesn't suggest that this is a type of negotiation of good heart and mind it feels like gamesmanship. >> that's what it is. when you have people that prominent like howard dean or chuck schumer coming out and saying this is their goal, their end goal is to see the government shutdown. it isn't our goal. we are principled and we have positions we want to fight for. it isn't our goal to see a shutdown. frankly, they believe the american people -- they want the american people to blame republicans. now we have proof positive, you can't blame republicans. republicans aren't wanting to shut the government down. it is chuck schumer and howard dean saying they want to see the government shutdown. i think the cat is out of bag. >> greta: speaker boehner says he won't commit to any short term continuing resolution what is your view if we get to april 8th and there is still