officers. they don't work hard? please! firefighters? teachers? come on! gregg: nobody ever said they don't work hard, and we admire and respect our firefighters and police officers. we admire -- >> but it doesn't sound that way. gregg: this is about sound financial budgets. and something had to give. and public workers are giving in this respect. >> the governor is the person that negotiates contracts. if governor kasich doesn't feel that he can negotiate with the state employee unions because he's too weak to stand up to the big, bad union negotiators, there's something wrong and people should replace the governor. gregg: representative armond budish, thank you for joining us today. >> thank you for having me. martha: a lot of tension on that issue. meantime we are open for business, that is homeland security secretary janet napolitano as she tries to assure the country that she believes that our southwest border is indeed secure.