signing it. >> that's right, and you also had african-american democrats in rhode island supporting this very vocally. it's an odd thing to be against. there was a poll out just last month that said that some 75% of likely u.s. voters support voter i.d. and that's been consistent over many, many years, those kinds of results. >> so the claim is by a lot of the critics, said you know what, voter fraud is an invented program. it doesn't exist, it's a fantasy of conservatives. how big a problem is it? >> well, let's take the acorn scandal a voter registration fraud and if they had tried to go to the polls they would have had to show i.d. and couldn't have done that. >> acorn activists trying to generate voter turnout and we found out over time that a lot of the vote they'res they tried to generate were made up names. >> that's right. but let me give you more specific example. last year, there was a state representative election in kansas city, missouri won by