against white people and blacks, god knows-- >> and wealthy and very, and the middle of the rest. >> and it's a disgrace. >> i'll give you my wallet later. i looked at that census data. one thing i didn't understand. they say that whites have 20 times the amount of wealth as blacks. looking at this, the stock investment wealth is 28% for whites, 19% for blacks and 15% for hispanics. that doesn't translate into wealth that's 20 times more. what does that mean? that means it's about equity in homes. all of this is going back to the real estate bubble, that it burst because these people, a lot of, unfortunately, a lot of americans got homes they weren't supposed to get and lost their money, right? >> do you think there's some racial and animus? >> no, i don't think they picked them out and said because you're black and hispanic or italian, that they would say that's the cut. the fact is--