go um. but then there is going to be another disaster five years from now. it goes up, up, boom. conservative americans want to secure their money. they want what they call preserve capital. it's the way way to do that now? i don't think you can look five years out in anything in the world we are living in today. five years is too long for anything. look out six months. look out a year. you can't tell what the congress is doing going do in that time. you can't tell what the international situation is going to be. at any moment it could blow up and have a problem on our hands. it's going to be a continuing thing. >> bill: stocks in a dangerous world and unstable world. you don't go heavily into stocks. you get more cautious, do you? am i wrong? >> no. i don't. i think that there are times to take advantage of these things. when you have got people things like ford motor company sell at five or six times earnings. major corporations who are solid, who are generating income. whose profits are good. listen, i own a little business