specifically. and gave a clintonian answer. can you explain that? >> well, when he says, did not authorized, as far as he would go. i don't expect the president to have authorized a specific investigation or program. i don't expect the attorney general necessarily to have authorized every aspect of this. but i would be shocked that the attorney general was not briefed on how u.s. agent or two u.s. agents died. on the day that gabrielle giffords was shot, there were e-mails flying everywhere. people were concerned this was a fast and furious weapon that shot her. that kind of panic doesn't stay just at the local level. it goe»ññ up and down. it is one of the reasons that the stonewalling they are doing and the cover-up just makes us believe this was more than it seems even now. it seems like enough that people's heads should roll. we should have new safeguards to make sure this could never happen again. >> sean: you are talking about