consider hamas as a terrorist organization and we are seeing a much weaker palestinian authority. all that indicates that next year we're going to see more influence to the islamist fundamentalists in gaza and less influence to the secular elements among the palestinians. >> rick: when we talk about israel and its relations to other regional countries, most notably iran, do you foresee any conflict as -- does israel trio do anything to stop iran in their nuclear ambitions? >> israel has two clocks. one that goes with us. they will coordinate with us any issue with regard to iran. but it has another clock and that one is its own national security. if they see and are sure that the iranians have the bomb and have the missile which they do have, then the israelis may on their own do an action against the iranians. that's something very risky and they know it. >> rick: we covered a lot of ground. the book is "the coming revolution, the struggle for freedom in the middle east."