national campaign manager alice stewart to try to put this hastily together. still setting up this particular venue. this is the venue where the caucus reception was for the bachmann campaign last night. as noted at the top of the hour the national campaign manager for the the bachmann campaign suggested -- getting out of the race may be a course she may want to consider. sarah palin said something similar on the air last night, while she was complimentary of congresswoman's bachmann's effort and her role in her campaign that her best role may be back in the house as a u.s. congressman from minnesota. if you read voices and body language it does look like the decision is made to discontinue the campaign, but that is just a sense i get, not something official i get from the campaign. jamie: we could know in less than an hour, thanks so much, steve brown, live in des moines. bill: as we await bachmann's big