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and the tuskegee air men, so much the story. is it harder tore play a role when the story is true? >> well, the word isn't harder. you have to be more focused. you have to find truth in the reality of the character you are playing who it in both instances they were on the set. karl was on the set and the surviving airmen who were in their 90s. >> they were there. >> it is like gooding sit up straight. it was a little bit of that stuff but you makes you stay focused on the truth because that is what we do as actors try to find the truth of the moment. >> mike: did you look at those guys with emotion. >> every day. >> mike: and what they did and what they put up with. growing up in the deep south i saw first hand what people put up with. i look back and i marvel that there was the courage and the determination and the per severance that people who went through a racism that i don't think most people can even

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