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and the tuskegee air men, so much the story. is it harder tore play a role when the story is true? >> well, the word isn't harder. you have to be more focused. you have to find truth in the reality of the character you are playing who it in both instances they were on the set. karl was on the set and the surviving airmen who were in their 90s. >> they were there. >> it is like gooding sit up straight. it was a little bit of that stuff but you makes you stay focused on the truth because that is what we do as actors try to find the truth of the moment. >> mike: did you look at those guys with emotion. >> every day. >> mike: and what they did and what they put up with. growing up in the deep south i saw first hand what people put up with. i look back and i marvel that there was the courage and the determination and the per severance that people who went through a racism that i don't think most people can even
road and that is why as much as anything else this election in november is so critical. >> mike: the president talked about the need to raise taxes. he has never really settled on a figure. how much do we need to raise. what is the percentage. how does -- how high does it need to be in order to be fair. let's talk about that because you will be faced in the united states senate with questions about should we raise taxes. are the rich americans paying their fair share? if they are, great. if not, how much should they be paying. >> i always felt that is the wrong way to examine it it. two choices. either create new taxes oar work on creating new taxpayers. more people working and more people paying taxes. the people working making more money which means they will pay more on hopefully that will be a flat tax rate. that is what we should be aiming at. instead the president is saying let's raise taxes on people that create middle class jobs. why would we discourage people from investing in america's
finished with my education and knew nothing about the tuskegee airmen and i was frustrated and angry and i think now after seeing "red tails" and these two films and everything they encompass and explain the magnificence that are the tuskegee airmen my sons will know and won't have the same scenario happen to them. i think it is the education of who these american heros were is what makes me proud to be part of it. >> mike: every american whether black or white ought to look back with a great sense of gratitude to the tuskegee airmen and all those who put up with so much to make our country a better country. good story. i hope every american will see it and i hope they will see it with a sense of understanding of what a great country we have but also how far we have come from -- >> how far we have come, that's right. >> mike: you have done a great job in telling that story. what an honor to have you here. >> thank you, governor. >> mike: thank you very much.
hispanic community. during thursday night's debate in jacksonville the candidates were asked which hispanics they would ask to join their administration. >> senator marco rubio is a pretty impressive guy. >> of course, senator marco rubio, a terrific hispanic american. >> i thought about marco rubio in a slightly more dig anified and central role than being in the cabinet but that is another conversation. >> mike: though many see marco rubio as a great candidate for the vice presidency the florida senator has repeatedly said that he is not interested but remains influencial in the gop race both in florida as well as nationally. i spoke to senator rubio just moments ago. so much attention on florida and a lot has to do with your influence. steadfast and unwavering and unfrenching you are not going to endorse anybody but the candidates with all like to have your endorsement. you did without an endorsement
base. the whole for like two mile space all you saw was like vintage 1943 military air base. it is what we recreated and they put these kids through training, eight days of hard intense training and sleeping in the snow and then finally put them in the planes and when you have a professional pilot take you up as an actor he has to show you his skills. a lot of throwing up in them planes. >> mike: are you admitting there was a little bit of upchucking going on? in there was as lot of upchucking. >> mike: most people don't want to admit that. you realize you have no future in politics if you are that honest. >> i got sick a couple of times. >> mike: you played a lot of roles in which you played real people. my favorite film that i think you have done up until now was men of honor the phenomenal story of karl brasheers.
we are going to fight hard and long. i'm anxious to hear the candidates here and i'm sure that the people are arizona are waiting. >> mike: governor, thank you you very much for joining us. i'm sure the president had scorpions for breakfast even this morning. name of your book. appreciate you coming today. >> thank you, governor. >> mike: candidate's personal finances have become a hot topic during the republican primaries but should a candidate's bank account even matter in a campaign? we will debate on the report card, when we come back. you've felt like this before, right? 2:30 in the afternoon, a lot to do, and you've hit the wall. but you got to get stuff done. so take 5-hour energy. just open it up, knock it back, and roll up your sleeves. 5-hour energy is faster and easier than coffee. man, does it work. you'll get that alert, energized feeling you need to get stuff done. a lot of stuff.
accused of not being tense enough. too relaxed. >> mike: he seemed calm then. he isdown playing this and saying it wasn't that big a deal. let's assume it wasn't that big a deal in terms of the exchange on the tarmac. however, the big deal is there has been real tension not so much in a conversation but this administration and its relationship to your state arizona specifically regarding an immigration bill that you signed. let's talk about that. why i has that tension been something that has created some controversy? >> well, you know, governor, i think that he understands that arizona is the gateway of all of the illegal immigration which comes with it not only illegal immigration but the drug cartel, the violence, the drop houses, the crime level, the expense to arizona to the tune of $1.3 billion every yer in educate and incarcerate and
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come out and do a little pushback because of a spot that newt gingrich ran and mitt romney had this to say the other night in the debate. >> that is simply unexcusable and senator marco rubio came to my defense and said that was inexcusable. i'm not antiimmigrant. my father was born in mexico. my wife's father was born in wales. they came to this country. the idea that i'm antiimmigration is repulsive. >> mike: the issue of immigration is volatile to florida. why did you feel you need to speak out for the ad? >> i have nothing for admiration for speaker gingrich. the language of antiimmigrant is one being used against me. i'm troubled by the fact that everybody agree illegal immigration is a big issue, what you what you is unfair is people to go around saying unless you agree with their specific ideas about how to
provide healthcare to those people that are not here legally. and we cannot continue to put up with it nor should we have to put it up with it. we want our borders secured and it is the federal government's responsibility. and he doesn't want to talk about that, governor. all he wants to talk about is comprehensive immigration reform, amnesty, if you will, and we in arizona and i think in america we want our borders secured. >> mike: i know that i have a copy of the letter that you actually handed to him. a handwritten note that you gave to the president and you invite him to come down and even offered to buy him lunch. do he take you up on the offer? >> no, he did not take me he up on the offer but i'm still hoping. i went with a happy heart, governor, when i met him at the tarmac. i wanted to talk about good things, jobs and the economy and trying to get our country turned backside up and he wasn't interested in any of that. he was only interesting in my