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incident that i don't know about? what was the history. >> yes. he had written a column a few years earlier that compared gay and lesbian people to alcoholics that his wife had helped deliver them from being gay through this sort of prayer way to gay. there is a history there. >> bill: get this guy. i don't want to see him anymore. cnn guy. can conduct its business the way it wants to. i don't care one way or the other. here is what i want to know from you. you can make fun of a gay person in this country? can you just make a joke about a gay person? people make jokes about personnel here at fox news all the time. they mock us, jon stewart mocks everybody. letterman mocks everybody. can you mock a gay person and your organization, other organizations, will you be okay with that if it's just done, you know, in a casual, allegedly humorous way? can you do that? >> well, i think it depends on context and intent. i think we all usually can see the difference.

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