cost of health care, debt and decifits, and debt and decifits was the issue on which romney had the biggest advantage over obama, 15-point advantage. i think that's why you're seeing obama try to make the case he's a fiscal conservative but i don't think it's believable. martha: doug, when break that down, you're a pollster, obviously, so when you look at it looks like mitt romney does well among white voters, middle class and above. it looks like he's having a very tough time with ethnic voters, latino voters, african-american voters. that -- he has that work cut out for him. >> he suitly does, martha. he's trailing on who can do more on -- more for you and your family, trailing on being in touch and while there are concerns on debt and decifit, this is by no means a slam dunk that economic issues are going to work for governor romney and i think it's fiscal polices have not been fleshed out other than massive cuts in entitlements and massive tax cuts for the rich and i think people are genuinely confused, and the election