rattle. >> i disagree. when i was a young woman in my 20s and i was modeling and stuff, i didn't have -- i didn't have a normal job where i could get health care from one person. and i was young and i was healthy, and i decided what kind of health care. i had the catastrophic health care so i wasn't as worried as making sure i can pay my rent and keeping a healthy lifestyle. >> i was a young model too. but i am still single and not young anymore. and modeling is no longer returning my calls. >> in a way, anthony, doesn't it explain the whole julia campaign? do you remember that? it was the idea the government was going to be there every step of the way from single hood to just being a spinster. it was insurance for loneliness. and it speaks to somebody who is alone. and then you get married and go i don't really need the government. i can actually make my way on my own. is that part of the reason? >> i don't know. i just remember being young and single back in the 1930s.