while there is demagoguery here, no question -- he is true to his faith. >> wlook, i'm a liberal democrat. the point is here -- not that he is left or right. the point here is that we know what he is in these tapes now. he revealed himself-- was it the real obam in 2008 or this other -- >> oh, i wrote that piece in the "los angeles times," exposing his philly speech as being the race man. he focuses everything about race. [overlapping dialogue] >> that was also class. that's my point. >> sean: he is saying that katrina victims were not taken care of by the government because the government is against black people. >> right. >> sean: that's what he is saying. let's go back and roll parliament of this tape and notice the change -- the way you hear him when he gives a speech. >> when 9/11 happened in new york city...