good debater. they were totally surprised mitt romney was a good debate. i have not understood this lying thing from the beginning. i heard people say you lied when you ran because you didn't fulfill a promise. but you stand up in front of american people and you are talking about your proposals. the lies -- this doesn't stand up for me. then it doesn't student scrutiny. you get all these headlines. every fact checker says it's not a lie. megyn: they are focused on his statement he doesn't plan a $5 trillion tax cut as president obama suggested. >> so one of the president's folks people who herself is accused of lying saying she didn't know about the ad that she did. it's interesting they talk about veracity. but then last night she said right, stipulated it wouldn't be $5 trillion and they tried other