by 50-32% margin, those voters believed joe biden won the debate. that is something very key. >> except there were four or five other snap polls. >> not of undecided voters. >> undecided voters cnn. >> cnn had totality of voters. >> the problem gets to what we're talking about what biden's mission was last night. if you're incumbent party and you're still worried about the base with three weeks to go before the general election you're in really tough shape. >> i'm not sure he was worried about the base. >> you just said that was the whole show last night. >> no. no. energizing the base. wasn't getting the base to exactly support, wasn't worried about the base not dropping off and coming out to vote. the base was dispirited because president obama, i thought president obama did not come out and defend in full throated way what the debase wanted to defend you concluding myself. doesn't mean the base is staying home or dispirited. today the base is not dispirited the by what joe biden did.
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