sentiment are the president of america together foundation and the news editor for townhall.com. welcome to both of you. good to see you. >> michael, 8,000 rockets in just the last couple of years fired from gaza by hamas, a terrorist organization, into israeli cities. 8,000. 9,000 depending on which count you use. now, you give me one good reason you've always said they need to sit down, talk peace, talk peace, talk peace. you can't talk peace with people that are firing rockets into your country, into your cities day after day. isn't it time the israelis just take out the terrorist organization? give me one reason why not. >> well, first of all, shawn, unequivocally we condemn the act of hamas not only as a muslim, we condemn what they're doing, harassing and terrorizing the civilians in israel. i urge the organization of islamic countries to join