better place, i think. >> what about his leverage point, though, james' leverage points, the only that on president obama, to lead to a less destructive solution on tax and spending. >> why, do you think he cares about it? >> i think the one thing he cares about is big government and-- >> he wants big government. >> because the problem is that-- that roepublicans have-- he doesn't care if taxes rise, he's fine with it, probably prefers it, right? >> the one thing he has campaigned on is taxes r on the rich. this is an emotional issue for the president. this is something he clearly cares about, he was deeply stung by the tax deal that he agreed, the extension in 2010, not only sung by his own left wing base, i think he was almost ashamed of that. i think you're mistaken, if the you think that the republicans-- >> let's say he refuses to