you know, and i get glimpses of what is being done to him. he's able to -- his family isable to visit him and he's able to say and get some words out, and that he's -- you know, last i heard he was getting discouraged that what they are saying might be true that he might be kept there even more than eight years, and that's what they are doing psychological torture on him and playing games on him, that he's, you know, he's going to be there for a longtime, he's never going to see me or the kids, and we need to continue fighting for him and to let him know and let the iranian government know he's not forgotten. gregg: jordan we've only got 30 second left. you launched a letter campaign on monday. >> that's right. gregg: tell bus it. >> we've talked to people who have gotten out of evan prison in iran. they all said letters, they may not even get them in their hands, if they get a lot of them the guards will tell them and start asking them questions about it which let's saeed know, let's the prisoner know people care about them. we launched it on monday, it's