being a nonpolitical nonpartisan organization. what's been happening has been the normal back and forth that happens with the irs. there is absolutely no targeting. >> bill: well, now, we know that's not true. mr. shullman was misleading everyone. did he do it on pumps? -- purpose? the fbi should find out because that sill legal. on friday the irs apologized for targeting conservative political groups making it more difficult for them to achieve tax exempt status. shulman left the irs in november. the agency now blames targeting on, quote: low level employees. and then there is the continuing controversy over benghazi. today president obama said. this. >> the whole issue of this -- of talking points, frankly, throughout this process has been a side show. what we have been very clear about throughout was