two west memphis police officers during a routine traffic stop. >> the other one were in the ditch. >> these guys shot a police officer. jon: monica lindstrom, is a criminal defense attorney. fred tecce, a former federal prosecutor. talk about the case. the las vegas case in particular. it almost sounds like a comedy until you see that footage from memphis, for instance. that's awful. >> it extremely sad. not even close to being a comedy. this is so incredibly sad. the first thing i would do is look at these two's competency and where they're coming from. we might think it is all good because they had an elaborate plan for a long time. something has to be broken inside their head when we look at something like this. jon: are we looking potential of insanity defense, fred. >> no they have a better chance to go to the moon. bottom line, these are knuckleheads. don't like plan to can kill