to negotiate something boehner and mcconnell would have no. >> clayton: that's why the president is campaigning because we know the budget battle is coming very very soon. is that what the president is trying to do get the political allies on his side the battle is coming. >> i think he thinks if he goes to certain states such as new york, a bit of pennsylvania in scranton that he can get those states on his side and momentum that is his strategy. i hope it works but that's his strategy. >> clayton: are we headed for a government shutdown because of this. >> i don't think so. i think there is more important things to focus on. in addition to the states you mentioned, income down. housing starts down. >> clayton: food stamps 11,000? >> the president has to lead on the economy. >> we both agree that the president has to lead on the economy. congress has to come forward, also the difference between ceo pay