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ringing off the hook. >> i guess you were critical? >> i have occasionally been. >> no federal job for you. but there is a long tradition of some people going from journalism into politics or public service as they would prefer to put it. clearly there has been a lot more of it in the obama administration. i think rick stengel was a pretty good editor during his seven years at the helm. but i was interviewing him once and said can't you find a good conservative columnist to go up against joe kline and he said he was still looking. so i wonder if it does -- whether it's something -- does it raise gez about what they did when they were on the msn side of the line. >> if you're going to make a switch, as some people do, but when you make a switch and then come back, i think it tarts to raise questions, particularly when you come back to the news business. can you keep up your integrity? it's different if you're an opinion person as opposed to a journalist, but i just don't see -- >> like tony snow who became

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