i want people to have health care. it was passed by a majority of congress. i'm sorry the republican tea party people don't like it. they don't have a right to hold the government hostage. >> let me agree with you. i think the people -- >> great. >> -- who don't have health care should get it. there are aspects that are good. if you saw obamacare and it was in the house and senate and you were a democrat in there, wouldn't you say, look, we found out that there are things wrong with this. there are real problems with it. it's not right. >> let's try to fix it. >> exactly. go back and fix it rather than impose it on the country. >> that's what the president is trying to do. the point is you can't -- look. when we look at medicare, there were all sorts of problems with implementation. i'm not willing to throw it out now and say it hasn't worked. we haven't tried. >> you seem to be -- >> there have been delays.