that the tea party is about small government lower taxes. but why when you start to see images of president obama, the joker, you start to say to yourself, hey, this is the first black president and he is treated like this? this is pretty rank. >> what do you say mary katharine? >> first of all, the chimpy mcbush hit remember brigades not having respect for the office when bush was there that's a good point that you made, bill. look, i think it's problematic when you smear half of the country with these kind of motives when i think you are right, bill, it's not a huge significant part. the left says it's crazy to think none of this has to do with race. >> equally crazy to say that all of his problems are due to race. i think it's an excuse and hasn't served him well. obamacare and healthcare.gov aren't falling apart because of racism. falling apart because of ill advised scheme incompetently managed. >> mary katharine, you are right not all of his problems have to do with race. gosh, the obamacare stuff has been a disaster so far.