>> that's hillary clinton's cul paw built that the state ignored this. it is different from what the white house got about what happened on the day. >> what i don't understand, juan, is how her department which she was head of can be responsible for multiple failures in this thing, and she is blameless. >> do you think she is on 9 -- on the line for security? >> is she ultimately responsible for what happens under her leadership? >> certainly. you have an am bass -- ambassador on the ground -- >> do you think she is blameless? >> i don't think she is blame lest, but who has a bigger cul paw built. >> no one is ever held accountable for anything. if not hillary clinton who in the state department is accountable? there is no one accountable for irs, for this, for health care. it is endless. >> that's a political argument.