the president has said. one thing. >> well, he has put forth a very comprehensive immigration reform. >> that doesn't cut it on this program, pastor. you don't know what he has put forth. >> comprehensive is a b.s. word. give me specifics. >> he wants to have folks who are here ill legally, register, get to the back of the line, learn english, pay a fine and then have a path to citizenship. at the same time that we secure our borders. >> but that doesn't mean anything if the border isn't secure. you just said at the same time secure the borders. he has been there five and a half years we have an exodus -- we have a disaster coming in here now. they can't secure it all that just evaporates. all right, father, let me ask you. this the guy who spit at the singer absolutely morally wrong, correct? >> of course we don't do that. >> no justification? >> no. >> all right. do you understand, as a confess sore, that man's anger? >> i understand the people going into the street because their communities are about to become the