and most importantly for hillary clinton, she's going to have to defend what the president has done and hasn't done in ending the war on terror and looking overseas. i think that's going to be a huge challenge for her. >> let me ask lanny, since you know her being a woman is not an achievement, it's an action of birth. what is the rationale for voting for hillary clinton? >> first of all she's been a candidate in 2008 and the u.s. senate with a track record of being for economic growth, for job creation and for people talking about today's economy we have a pretty good economy at 5.5% unemployment rate and a growth factor of 5% in the last quarter. so we're going to have -- i know so the republicans are upset about the economy, but hillary clinton is running as a candidate of job creation as a candidate of what is the traditional democratic view of public-private partnerships, the bill clinton and barack obama method of combineing governmental action,