emboldened the police aren't doing anything and the thug culture comes out, starts looting, rioting destroying people injuring people killing people. we had a lot of deaths as a result of that. >> from seeing your perspective both from being a police officer and understanding the rights of peaceful protests which i'm hearing you saying that's not what we're looking at here. when you have mayor -- i'd love to get your insight on this -- saying there is space to destroy. we're going to allow space to destroy. how negligent was that? >> if that's what she said they played her quote and she said something we allowed a space to destroy. i don't know if she was saying like we inadvertently allowed -- >> she said we also gave those who wish to destroy space to do that as well. >> if i interpret that that she intentionally gave space to destroy, no lessons have been learned in the last 35 years. that's the mistake we learned long ago. let them kind of burn the
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