be what it is. but having him on that debate stage will be important. martha: byron york joins knee now. byron, good morning to you. how has the discussion of this changed dramatically. >> there is no doubt a lot of democrats are nervous about hillary clinton, not only about the details of the email matter, but always with the sense with the clintons it's always something. clearly the vice president's circle, people close to him are leaking stories that he's getting closer and closer to running. but remember the fact is, most of the democratic establishment has already put its chips on hillary clinton. all of its chips on hillary clinton. it's unclear and wetter joe
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