ready for our games, get the sheen off the balls. i was in control of the balls. they would have never done anything -- >> i've thrown a lot of footballs in my life, too, not at the level, of course, that you have. >> yeah. >> when i had a preference, i made it clear to the football team manager, you know, i like this ball, or i like that ball. isn't it possible that brady made a preference saying, the softer the better, guys? find a ball that's not frozen. isn't that possible? >> oh, i think it's possible, improbable. i don't believe that's the case. i believe he instructed the people to deflate the balls. >> why would you believe that? if brady says he didn't do it, why would you believe -- >> brady said he didn't do anything wrong. and the judge didn't question whether he did or didn't do it. he said the process that goodell -- >> that's absolutely true. the judge did not rule on that, that's true. you're a good man. i think brady's a good man.