or people on his transition team, and, of course, you can learn all kinds of things from diplomats gossiping, because that is what occurs. under the rules, and they are pretty strict, it is called minimization. you don't name the american person who is being discussed. and there are 20 people in the intelligence community, for intelligence reasons, can say, we need to unmask or take the minimization off of these thing things. but the idea that there was intelligence value here is really thin. it is, again, down the middle, it is not what trump said, but this could be criminal on the part of people who decided, oh, let's name these people.