learned from this campaign. and as long as they are blaming external factors, they're not really doing the analysis that's going to help them move forward, because those factors will not be the same. and some of them were very unique to hillary clinton. certainly, the e-mail server issue, they believe the media overcovered it. you had an fbi investigation into a sitting candidate, it was a -- a running candidate. you had a situation with that e-mail server that is entirely self-inflicted by hillary clinton and whether the media magnified that or not to, it was certainly a factor for the entirety of the election and, in fact, even before she ran. so i don't -- it's not just the way that i think about this. some of the sources that my co-author, amie parnes, and i talked to said they felt hillary clinton was not being very reflective about this. elizabeth: right. and here's a woman who's been in the public eye even before arkansas. jonathan, thank you so much. of course, for our viewers, "shattered" is available to them, it's fascinating.
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