eric is right, the long-term consequences could be tremendous and could be worse than these nuclear arms threats. >> they play into each other. if you think about it, they have to have the missile launch capability and they have to have the nuclear capability to reach america. people are telling me within the trump administration are going to have that ability, which is frightening. why isn't it happening quicker? my guess is we have some pretty smart cyber experts ourselves. the fact is, there is a whole cyber war going on. >> eboni: kat, obviously these are norma's concerns. these are things that were talked about a little bit on the campaign trail but not a ton. you thought they white house is completely on board with this, whereabouts? and understands the gravity? >> kat: part of the reason i did not like the way donald trump seemed to minimize the possibility of russia hacking the election, saying if
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