since then, i have repeatedly asked hillary clinton to explain to me the real reason why my son is dead. i'm still waiting. >> heather: really rips at your heart strings when you listen to that and you know the pain these families are going through. but jesse, the court had to rule in terms of what was legally right and just, correct? >> right. the law i wish sometimes could watch up with common sense. here is the problem. kent was making a point earlier. with defamation what really hurt their case it couldn't show harm. how were you not able to obtain a job after this because of what you said? how is your reputation damaged in the community? how is your life affected in a way that would not have been if you didn't make those statements? moving forward if they appeal this case, if they refile it, really focus upon how you were hurt and you may see some success. >> heather: let's not forget four lives were lost in