him to do that is no more teleprompter speeches. no more prepared remarks that people can dismiss and saying that's not really him that's his aides telling him what to do. and no more battles with the media where he is getting wound up and aggressive. what i think he needs to do is sit down and have an open conversation, sit down for an interview with someone and just speak like a human being about what is truly in his heart. and not in a confrontational way, but just showing the country what he really is if it's true that he is not a racist and if it's true that he is not a bigot, let's see that. >> you and i were sitting here watching the reporting. it felt a lot about the gain, did it not. >> yes. >> rands from the right and the left? >> the lesson will be well, who won the campaign. again i think wrongly he would see that this is something in the end might strength him. i think he needs to deal with it. >> bill: invitation to sit