that's the basic opinion. i'm not saying that kaepernick doesn't have the right to do it, they certainly have the right to do it, owners have the right to react how they want to react, the president should not be calling for people to be fired by expressing their protest opinions, with that said i think there are only a few common symbols we hold together. and those are things like the national anthem and the flag and football, as those become politicized the country becomes almost irreconcilable. >> dana: let's not do that, i think the three of us agree and people watching -- >> we agree, one thing we have to add is go back to the beginning and figure how do we level playing field and solve injustices and that's by stopping state-sanctioned violence happening to white and black people by the cesses of the police departments. >> dana: a lot to debate there too, gentlemen, thank you so much for being here tonight. i appreciate it. directly ahead there is a new escalation in the north korean crisis with the hermit kingdom calling president trump's