and executive and resident at american university school of public affairs. good to see you both. >> good to be here. >> good to be with you. >> shannon: it's a nice night here in d.c. too. i asked my newer day said it would be unleashing a reign of terror. the president doesn't step in on this. they had that little dinner. chuck schumer was over there. when he came out and they come out and said basically there was a deal, the right freaked out. the president has now said we will do a deal on dreamers but here the 70 things i will need from you including the border wall. where do we go from here? if there's a number of provisions and my understanding, democrats and republicans can come together. for example, e-verify. the issue of the wall was something democrats were talking about 2013. if you're focusing on some of those things as opposed to ripping families apart, i think