dollars of cash sitting there that don't want the p.r. nightmare, it's a little bit more about the hold-up game and the shakedown game than it is about whether apple did anything right or wrong. >> completely agree. the people that we're talking about that bring the cases, they're plaintiffs, class action lawyers. different than those on the defense side that represent the companies. the plaintiffs class action lawyers, you're right. they bring these claims. they know the companies will want to settle. they're going to make money whether they settle or whether it goes to trial, which is unlikely. in some countries, in england, for example, they have what are called loser pay rules. that causes lawyers to be very careful about filing claims. they could have to forfeit the fees and the loser has to pay the fees. some say we should take a second look at the rules here in the u.s. to prevent this from happening in the future. >> the trial bar spends a lot of money on lobbyists on capitol hill to make sure that doesn't
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