it's against rule of law. and we're allowing russia to -- >> jason: president trump did more to punish russia than the obama administration ever did. >> that'ss absolutely incorrect. >> mercenaries -- when the mercenaries came in and attacked us in syria, we didn't talk about it. we killed hundreds of them. allal right? the idea trump is somehow soft on russia when he's done that, he expelled the diplomats and if you don't want to have that region turn into war in the middleth east, maybe should you talk to the other major power that's playing proxy warfare in there and try to deescalate it. the idea that somehow we go to war with russia because they put a few facebook ads up hillary calling hillary clinton satan? that's hardly the worst they've done. >> you make a good point, jim. the fact is mercenaries went and attacked our forces. while our forces were in cager and fought back against these